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Template talk:Modbox

2010-03-23T17:14:19Z

Sing in Silence: /*1 Oh Oops, 2 questions.*/

You don't correct the info in the boilerplate, you correct it on the wiki page! Silly rabbit... -_-'

multiplayer= Can you play this mod in multiplayer? Yes/No. 
What exactly does this mean?
As far as D2 goes, the only way to ''disable'' multiplayer is by editing the code, and (assuming you're talking about TCP/IP) I don't know of any mod that does that.

download= Download url. 
Link to a mirror page, good enough?

Template:Modbox

2010-03-23T16:58:20Z

Sing in Silence: Added logo, corrected info.

<noinclude>
{{Modbox
|game= Diablo II
|portrait= Modsbylaz.5.1227325350.gif‎

|name= Median XL
|created= Brother Laz
|type= Alternate gameplay
|language= English
|launch= 2001
|status= Active
|patch= 1.10-1.13
|users= 1000's
|multiplayer= Yes
|download= http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
|url= http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
|forum= http://modsbylaz.14.forumer.com/
|wiki= http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Median_XL
|catexclude=
}}

<div style="clear:both;"></div>

</noinclude><includeonly>
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|-
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|-
!colspan="2" style="text-align: center;"|'''''{{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'''''
|-
|Created by:
|{{{created|Unknown}}} 
|-
|Type of mod:
|{{{type|fansite}}} 
|-
|Language:
|{{{language|English}}}
|-
|Launched:
|{{{launch|Unknown}}} 
|-
|Current status:
|{{{status|Active}}} 
|-
|Compatible patches:
|{{{patch|Unknown}}} 
|-
|Users:
|{{{users|Unknown}}} 
|-
|Multiplayer:
|{{{multiplayer|Unknown}}} 
|-
|Download:
|{{#if: {{{download|}}}|[{{{download|{{{url|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} Download link] | None}} 
|-
|Website:
|{{#if: {{{url|}}}|[{{{url|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}} {{{url|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}}] | None}} 
|-
|Forum:
|{{#if: {{{forum|}}}|[{{{forum|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}} {{{forum|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}}] | None}} 
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|Wiki/FAQ:
|{{#if: {{{wiki|}}}|[{{{wiki|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}} {{{wiki|http://{{PAGENAME}}}}}] | None}} 
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<noinclude>[[Category:Templates]][[Category:Infoboxes]]

==How to use==

<nowiki>{{</nowiki>Modbox
|game= Diablo I, Diablo II or Diablo III.
|portrait= Filename only. The icon of the skill.
|portrait-width= If different than 200px, set width here, otherwise comment out.
|name= Mod name, if different from name of page.
|created= Names/Nicknames/Organisation.
|type= Alternate gameplay, custom patch, total conversion, etc.
|language= English, mostly.
|launch= Launch year (and date, if possible).
|status= Active/Inactive
|patch= What patches are compatible with mod? 1.09, 1.10, 1.13, etc
|users= How many? 10's, 100's, 1000's, etc.
|multiplayer= Can you play this mod in multiplayer? Yes/No.
|download= Download url.
|url= Website url.
|forum= Forum url.
|wiki= Wiki or info page url.
|catexclude= Put a space here if categories should be excluded.
<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

</noinclude>

File:MedianXL logo.gif

2010-03-23T16:44:37Z

Sing in Silence: The Median XL logo. Original is [http://modsbylaz.14.forumer.com/images/logos/modsbylaz.5.1227325350.gif here]. I cropped the empty gray width. Any more info needed?

The Median XL logo.
Original is [http://modsbylaz.14.forumer.com/images/logos/modsbylaz.5.1227325350.gif here].
I cropped the empty gray width.
Any more info needed?

User talk:Flux

2010-03-23T15:35:36Z

Sing in Silence: /* Mods section */

==Greetings==
Hello! =) I just wanted to make a comment here, so your talk page doesn't appear red in the "recent changes" page ;) If you want to make a reply, make sure to sign your comments (if you need help with that: [[Help:Talk]]) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 17:22, 23 October 2008 (CEST)

==What's 3 "M"s????==
So... What's with the extra "M" you added onto the "MMORPG" article???
--[[User:belushi81x|belushi81x]] 17:05, 25 Dec 2008 (CEST)

: He apparently saw it and fixed it =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:42, 27 December 2008 (CET)

Yeah, typos happen. Sometimes even in page titles. Anyone is welcome to fix minor errors like that; you don't need to message admins or the page creator in such instances. -- Flux

== A small question... ==

How to have an internal link going to a category? i wanna make a link to the Jewelry Category, but i cant, because if i specify category, it sends the word jewelry to the categories at the bottom of the article. and if i dont specify its a category, then it links to Jewelry article, and that doesnt exist... please help. --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 11:08, 4 April 2009 (CEST)

:put a : in front of the name, inside the brackets, and it will not make that a link to the category. Add the "pipe trick" like you do with any other link.

:Example:

:* <nowiki>[[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]</nowiki>
:** [[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]

:Leord and I have had "add a bunch of basic wiki tips and tricks to the help page" on our to-do list forever, but there always seems to be something more pressing. Wikipedia.org has exhaustive help pages, but they're so long that it's hard to find what you want. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet cheat sheet] is useful -- someday I've got to learn how to do footnotes properly. *cough* -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:22, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:: Thx mate... And is it possible 2 rename articles? 2 articles need to be renamed, nothing serious, just so it they are Correctly Written... with caps in the right spots...

:::yeah, mention them here or email me or leord or you can post them in the [http://forums.diii.net/forumdisplay.php?f=127 wiki support forum].

::::It's generally helpful to make redirect pages for caps or non-caps, since the wiki search engine is so stupid about case sensitivity. I've taken to mostly doing categories and page names in lowercase, just so I don't have to try to remember which ones are caps and which are not. Also note that one word page names are not case sensitive; monsters = Monsters, since the first word in a title gets capitalized automatically by the page title. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:32, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::: Critical hits should be Critical Hits.... agreed?

::::::I suppose so, but it's not something I'd worry about, despite beign something of a grammar nazi at times. There should be both pages, with one redirecting. Just copy the entire lowercase page, make that a redirect, and paste it into the uppercase name version, if it's important to you. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 14:25, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::: being a grammar nazi is fun ^^... anywho, its not that important + i dont understand ur explanation... by ur explanation i think i have to make a copy of the article...am i right? --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 15:54, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::Use the [move] tab at the ~top of the page (It's next to History, which is next to the Edit button :P ) --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 17:11, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:::::::::I was under the impression that only admins could use the move, protect, and delete buttons? If move is open to all, then yeah, that's an easier way. Moving a page automatically creates a redirect link from the old to the new. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 23:18, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Just saw this discussion and thought I'd chime in. The case sensitivity is unfortunate, and is actually an aspect of the server's operating system (Linux). When I first starting messing around in here, Leord mentioned to be that the general rule of thumb was to capitalize the first letter and lowercase the rest, unless they're proper nouns. I don't know if that still stands, but I agree it's not a big deal. BTW Flux, Protect and Delete are still hidden from users, so not all is lost. =]
::::::::::--[[User:Azymn|Azymn]] 03:01, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Ok, sorry for sorting your talk page in a traditional [[help:Talk|talk page manner]], I just need to see who wrote what. =)

::::::::::Anyway, do NOT move around pages that are descriptive titles like a [[Critical hit]]. If an article we make is made from some sort of name, like a [[Hydra Rune]], then use the capitalization. There are no problems with the server wither way, but it's a lot easier to make links, and it's common wikipedia custom do name articles in this fashion. =)

::::::::::Please everyone check out the [[Help]] section. I spent lots of time writing it, and it handles more or less everything you would come across in the wiki! The following pages cover all the above questions: [[Help:Move|moving articles]], [[Help:Markup|making links of any kind]] and [[DiabloWiki:Policy|naming policies]]. Also, as Flux said, we need redirects as well, so check out [[Help:Redirect|redirects]] for further info. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::PS. If "Critical Hit" becomes a [[:Category:Game terms|game term]], we'll rename the page accordingly. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:36, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==attribute page==
Flux, the [[attribute]] page u edited recently isnt complete... check out pre-set attribute argument... i dont know what you wanted to type there, so i cant help.

:You must have hit it during the editing/rewritting process. I save pages as I'm going from time to time to get a look at the overall thing. it's done now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 06:36, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

:: i didnt edit it... i was never in attributes editing page... --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 08:08, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::: He's talking about this line: "Much digital ink has been spilled on this issue, since it was revealed at Blizzcon, in October 2008. (The first word came from an interview by Diii.net, and immediately resulted in a". It ends mid-sentence with "a", and then the next paragraph begins. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::O I C. I thought you meant the page was generally disorganized, as it was during the editing/writing process. I didn't notice that inc sentence. I was going to add a link to the first reaction to the news, and forgot to go dig up the forum thread. It's edited now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 00:22, 8 April 2009 (CEST)

== Pit Flyers==
Aren't the bat winged creatures with the fingernail heads at the Blizzcon 2008 games Pit Flyers? --[[User:Butch Audacity|Butch Audacity]] Feb 14, 2010 3:52 PM EST

:They're a similar type, at least. I made a [[flyer]] page for them. They weren't [[Pit Flyer]]s, at least they didn't spawn from anything like those are concept-art shown to, but they were giant bats. -- [[User:Flux|Flux]] 08:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

==Mods section==
Leord suggested that I lend a hand fleshing it out. What kind of info do you want there? For what version of D2? Mods living / dead, released / unreleased, in development / complete / abandoned / history, etc.

Also, quite aside from the 'official documentation' that every mod has, Eastern Sun (for example) has a rather [http://miyoshino.la.coocan.jp/eswiki/ extensive wiki] of its own. How do these fit in? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 21:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:Hey, thanks for the offer.

:For now, I'd just like basic coverage of all the major (and minor?) D1 and D2 mods. I put some very quick paragraph summations about a few of them on the {{iw|Mod#Diablo_II_Mods d2 mods page}} a few weeks ago. I'd like to keep the descriptions on that page of about that length -- name of the mod, a sentence or two on what makes it special/different/unique, dates when it was being updated, links to official site/forum/download.

:Longer term, it would be nice to incorporate more of the mod info into the wiki. Maybe not every word of a mod's wiki, but at least to preserve the bulk of it; mod hosting sites come and go, after all. That content would go on a page devoted to that particular mod. We've got some more coverage of {{iw|Median_XL Median XL}} now, but it's kind of disorganized. Ultimately we'll get a proper mods navigation and boilerplate set up; so one of those nifty navigation tables would show the essential mod features and such.
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

::Flux, you commented on his userpage, rather than talk :p It's a little less likely to draw his attention, I think. --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 10:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Heh. Well, I'm here now. I'm not enormously familiar with most of the mods that are out there, but a couple of lines I should be able to do. Longer term... Well, I'll just start on the shorter term first, shall I? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 10:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Umm. If noting else, ''Blizzard vs. Bnetd'' lets one exercise their circumlocution. Flux, I have a related question, and I don't want to post it here just in case. Do you prefer a PM or an e-mail? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 15:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

::::We want to cover everything in the wiki, but obviously we have to prioritize our efforts and time. And it's not as if d2 mods, for a game that's 10 years old, are exactly the hottest area of debate or discourse at this point. We would like to cover D3 mods as soon as they emerge, but that's a ways down the road. And send me a forum PM, please. My @diii.net email has been acting up of late. Thx. --[[User:Flux|Flux]] 03:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

:::::Hey Sing in Silence! I have been slightly absent due to a Starcraft 2 Beta launch. =) I'm gonna do a little work here, and some on SC2 for a while. I think I'll start with this mod thing. Basically we'll make a standardised document on how to do a mod page (also called a "[[boilerplate]]", in case Flux did not explain it all). You won't have to use all those headlines etc, just either leave them commented out or comment them out if you don't have the info or don't have the time for them all.
:::::Make sure you give feedback now when I'm working on them as well, since we'll likely be using the same system on the D3 mods further down the line. You'll see some first results tomorrow. =)
:::::--[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

::::::Okay Flux, will do. 
::::::Hello Leord, having fun, I hope? ^_^ I'll take a look at the boilerplate and leave comments on the discussion page. --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 15:35, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

==Brought to your attention...==
http://www.diablowiki.net/User:FreeGayChatroomWebcam
Somthing should probably be done about this...
--[[User:Belushi81x|belushi81x]] 16:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:yeah, it seemed a little lacking on diablo 3 content. Not even any links to the male wizard? ;)
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Flux

2010-03-17T15:01:10Z

Sing in Silence: /* Pointless TLDR, better now & an edit */

==Greetings==
Hello! =) I just wanted to make a comment here, so your talk page doesn't appear red in the "recent changes" page ;) If you want to make a reply, make sure to sign your comments (if you need help with that: [[Help:Talk]]) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 17:22, 23 October 2008 (CEST)

==What's 3 "M"s????==
So... What's with the extra "M" you added onto the "MMORPG" article???
--[[User:belushi81x|belushi81x]] 17:05, 25 Dec 2008 (CEST)

: He apparently saw it and fixed it =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:42, 27 December 2008 (CET)

Yeah, typos happen. Sometimes even in page titles. Anyone is welcome to fix minor errors like that; you don't need to message admins or the page creator in such instances. -- Flux

== A small question... ==

How to have an internal link going to a category? i wanna make a link to the Jewelry Category, but i cant, because if i specify category, it sends the word jewelry to the categories at the bottom of the article. and if i dont specify its a category, then it links to Jewelry article, and that doesnt exist... please help. --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 11:08, 4 April 2009 (CEST)

:put a : in front of the name, inside the brackets, and it will not make that a link to the category. Add the "pipe trick" like you do with any other link.

:Example:

:* <nowiki>[[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]</nowiki>
:** [[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]

:Leord and I have had "add a bunch of basic wiki tips and tricks to the help page" on our to-do list forever, but there always seems to be something more pressing. Wikipedia.org has exhaustive help pages, but they're so long that it's hard to find what you want. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet cheat sheet] is useful -- someday I've got to learn how to do footnotes properly. *cough* -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:22, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:: Thx mate... And is it possible 2 rename articles? 2 articles need to be renamed, nothing serious, just so it they are Correctly Written... with caps in the right spots...

:::yeah, mention them here or email me or leord or you can post them in the [http://forums.diii.net/forumdisplay.php?f=127 wiki support forum].

::::It's generally helpful to make redirect pages for caps or non-caps, since the wiki search engine is so stupid about case sensitivity. I've taken to mostly doing categories and page names in lowercase, just so I don't have to try to remember which ones are caps and which are not. Also note that one word page names are not case sensitive; monsters = Monsters, since the first word in a title gets capitalized automatically by the page title. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:32, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::: Critical hits should be Critical Hits.... agreed?

::::::I suppose so, but it's not something I'd worry about, despite beign something of a grammar nazi at times. There should be both pages, with one redirecting. Just copy the entire lowercase page, make that a redirect, and paste it into the uppercase name version, if it's important to you. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 14:25, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::: being a grammar nazi is fun ^^... anywho, its not that important + i dont understand ur explanation... by ur explanation i think i have to make a copy of the article...am i right? --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 15:54, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::Use the [move] tab at the ~top of the page (It's next to History, which is next to the Edit button :P ) --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 17:11, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:::::::::I was under the impression that only admins could use the move, protect, and delete buttons? If move is open to all, then yeah, that's an easier way. Moving a page automatically creates a redirect link from the old to the new. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 23:18, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Just saw this discussion and thought I'd chime in. The case sensitivity is unfortunate, and is actually an aspect of the server's operating system (Linux). When I first starting messing around in here, Leord mentioned to be that the general rule of thumb was to capitalize the first letter and lowercase the rest, unless they're proper nouns. I don't know if that still stands, but I agree it's not a big deal. BTW Flux, Protect and Delete are still hidden from users, so not all is lost. =]
::::::::::--[[User:Azymn|Azymn]] 03:01, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Ok, sorry for sorting your talk page in a traditional [[help:Talk|talk page manner]], I just need to see who wrote what. =)

::::::::::Anyway, do NOT move around pages that are descriptive titles like a [[Critical hit]]. If an article we make is made from some sort of name, like a [[Hydra Rune]], then use the capitalization. There are no problems with the server wither way, but it's a lot easier to make links, and it's common wikipedia custom do name articles in this fashion. =)

::::::::::Please everyone check out the [[Help]] section. I spent lots of time writing it, and it handles more or less everything you would come across in the wiki! The following pages cover all the above questions: [[Help:Move|moving articles]], [[Help:Markup|making links of any kind]] and [[DiabloWiki:Policy|naming policies]]. Also, as Flux said, we need redirects as well, so check out [[Help:Redirect|redirects]] for further info. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::PS. If "Critical Hit" becomes a [[:Category:Game terms|game term]], we'll rename the page accordingly. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:36, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==attribute page==
Flux, the [[attribute]] page u edited recently isnt complete... check out pre-set attribute argument... i dont know what you wanted to type there, so i cant help.

:You must have hit it during the editing/rewritting process. I save pages as I'm going from time to time to get a look at the overall thing. it's done now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 06:36, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

:: i didnt edit it... i was never in attributes editing page... --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 08:08, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::: He's talking about this line: "Much digital ink has been spilled on this issue, since it was revealed at Blizzcon, in October 2008. (The first word came from an interview by Diii.net, and immediately resulted in a". It ends mid-sentence with "a", and then the next paragraph begins. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::O I C. I thought you meant the page was generally disorganized, as it was during the editing/writing process. I didn't notice that inc sentence. I was going to add a link to the first reaction to the news, and forgot to go dig up the forum thread. It's edited now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 00:22, 8 April 2009 (CEST)

== Pit Flyers==
Aren't the bat winged creatures with the fingernail heads at the Blizzcon 2008 games Pit Flyers? --[[User:Butch Audacity|Butch Audacity]] Feb 14, 2010 3:52 PM EST

:They're a similar type, at least. I made a [[flyer]] page for them. They weren't [[Pit Flyer]]s, at least they didn't spawn from anything like those are concept-art shown to, but they were giant bats. -- [[User:Flux|Flux]] 08:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

==Mods section==
Leord suggested that I lend a hand fleshing it out. What kind of info do you want there? For what version of D2? Mods living / dead, released / unreleased, in development / complete / abandoned / history, etc.

Also, quite aside from the 'official documentation' that every mod has, Eastern Sun (for example) has a rather [http://miyoshino.la.coocan.jp/eswiki/ extensive wiki] of its own. How do these fit in? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 21:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:Hey, thanks for the offer.

:For now, I'd just like basic coverage of all the major (and minor?) D1 and D2 mods. I put some very quick paragraph summations about a few of them on the {{iw|Mod#Diablo_II_Mods d2 mods page}} a few weeks ago. I'd like to keep the descriptions on that page of about that length -- name of the mod, a sentence or two on what makes it special/different/unique, dates when it was being updated, links to official site/forum/download.

:Longer term, it would be nice to incorporate more of the mod info into the wiki. Maybe not every word of a mod's wiki, but at least to preserve the bulk of it; mod hosting sites come and go, after all. That content would go on a page devoted to that particular mod. We've got some more coverage of {{iw|Median_XL Median XL}} now, but it's kind of disorganized. Ultimately we'll get a proper mods navigation and boilerplate set up; so one of those nifty navigation tables would show the essential mod features and such.
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

::Flux, you commented on his userpage, rather than talk :p It's a little less likely to draw his attention, I think. --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 10:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Heh. Well, I'm here now. I'm not enormously familiar with most of the mods that are out there, but a couple of lines I should be able to do. Longer term... Well, I'll just start on the shorter term first, shall I? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 10:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Umm. If noting else, ''Blizzard vs. Bnetd'' lets one exercise their circumlocution. Flux, I have a related question, and I don't want to post it here just in case. Do you prefer a PM or an e-mail? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 15:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==Brought to your attention...==
http://www.diablowiki.net/User:FreeGayChatroomWebcam
Somthing should probably be done about this...
--[[User:Belushi81x|belushi81x]] 16:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:yeah, it seemed a little lacking on diablo 3 content. Not even any links to the male wizard? ;)
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Flux

2010-03-17T10:59:52Z

Sing in Silence: /* Mods section */

==Greetings==
Hello! =) I just wanted to make a comment here, so your talk page doesn't appear red in the "recent changes" page ;) If you want to make a reply, make sure to sign your comments (if you need help with that: [[Help:Talk]]) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 17:22, 23 October 2008 (CEST)

==What's 3 "M"s????==
So... What's with the extra "M" you added onto the "MMORPG" article???
--[[User:belushi81x|belushi81x]] 17:05, 25 Dec 2008 (CEST)

: He apparently saw it and fixed it =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:42, 27 December 2008 (CET)

Yeah, typos happen. Sometimes even in page titles. Anyone is welcome to fix minor errors like that; you don't need to message admins or the page creator in such instances. -- Flux

== A small question... ==

How to have an internal link going to a category? i wanna make a link to the Jewelry Category, but i cant, because if i specify category, it sends the word jewelry to the categories at the bottom of the article. and if i dont specify its a category, then it links to Jewelry article, and that doesnt exist... please help. --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 11:08, 4 April 2009 (CEST)

:put a : in front of the name, inside the brackets, and it will not make that a link to the category. Add the "pipe trick" like you do with any other link.

:Example:

:* <nowiki>[[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]</nowiki>
:** [[:category:items|Click to see the Items Category]]

:Leord and I have had "add a bunch of basic wiki tips and tricks to the help page" on our to-do list forever, but there always seems to be something more pressing. Wikipedia.org has exhaustive help pages, but they're so long that it's hard to find what you want. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet cheat sheet] is useful -- someday I've got to learn how to do footnotes properly. *cough* -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:22, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:: Thx mate... And is it possible 2 rename articles? 2 articles need to be renamed, nothing serious, just so it they are Correctly Written... with caps in the right spots...

:::yeah, mention them here or email me or leord or you can post them in the [http://forums.diii.net/forumdisplay.php?f=127 wiki support forum].

::::It's generally helpful to make redirect pages for caps or non-caps, since the wiki search engine is so stupid about case sensitivity. I've taken to mostly doing categories and page names in lowercase, just so I don't have to try to remember which ones are caps and which are not. Also note that one word page names are not case sensitive; monsters = Monsters, since the first word in a title gets capitalized automatically by the page title. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 12:32, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::: Critical hits should be Critical Hits.... agreed?

::::::I suppose so, but it's not something I'd worry about, despite beign something of a grammar nazi at times. There should be both pages, with one redirecting. Just copy the entire lowercase page, make that a redirect, and paste it into the uppercase name version, if it's important to you. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 14:25, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::: being a grammar nazi is fun ^^... anywho, its not that important + i dont understand ur explanation... by ur explanation i think i have to make a copy of the article...am i right? --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 15:54, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::Use the [move] tab at the ~top of the page (It's next to History, which is next to the Edit button :P ) --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 17:11, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

:::::::::I was under the impression that only admins could use the move, protect, and delete buttons? If move is open to all, then yeah, that's an easier way. Moving a page automatically creates a redirect link from the old to the new. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 23:18, 5 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Just saw this discussion and thought I'd chime in. The case sensitivity is unfortunate, and is actually an aspect of the server's operating system (Linux). When I first starting messing around in here, Leord mentioned to be that the general rule of thumb was to capitalize the first letter and lowercase the rest, unless they're proper nouns. I don't know if that still stands, but I agree it's not a big deal. BTW Flux, Protect and Delete are still hidden from users, so not all is lost. =]
::::::::::--[[User:Azymn|Azymn]] 03:01, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::Ok, sorry for sorting your talk page in a traditional [[help:Talk|talk page manner]], I just need to see who wrote what. =)

::::::::::Anyway, do NOT move around pages that are descriptive titles like a [[Critical hit]]. If an article we make is made from some sort of name, like a [[Hydra Rune]], then use the capitalization. There are no problems with the server wither way, but it's a lot easier to make links, and it's common wikipedia custom do name articles in this fashion. =)

::::::::::Please everyone check out the [[Help]] section. I spent lots of time writing it, and it handles more or less everything you would come across in the wiki! The following pages cover all the above questions: [[Help:Move|moving articles]], [[Help:Markup|making links of any kind]] and [[DiabloWiki:Policy|naming policies]]. Also, as Flux said, we need redirects as well, so check out [[Help:Redirect|redirects]] for further info. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::::::::PS. If "Critical Hit" becomes a [[:Category:Game terms|game term]], we'll rename the page accordingly. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:36, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==attribute page==
Flux, the [[attribute]] page u edited recently isnt complete... check out pre-set attribute argument... i dont know what you wanted to type there, so i cant help.

:You must have hit it during the editing/rewritting process. I save pages as I'm going from time to time to get a look at the overall thing. it's done now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 06:36, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

:: i didnt edit it... i was never in attributes editing page... --[[User:DxAxxxTyriel|DxAxxxTyriel]] 08:08, 6 April 2009 (CEST)

::: He's talking about this line: "Much digital ink has been spilled on this issue, since it was revealed at Blizzcon, in October 2008. (The first word came from an interview by Diii.net, and immediately resulted in a". It ends mid-sentence with "a", and then the next paragraph begins. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:34, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

::::O I C. I thought you meant the page was generally disorganized, as it was during the editing/writing process. I didn't notice that inc sentence. I was going to add a link to the first reaction to the news, and forgot to go dig up the forum thread. It's edited now. -[[User:Flux|Flux]] 00:22, 8 April 2009 (CEST)

== Pit Flyers==
Aren't the bat winged creatures with the fingernail heads at the Blizzcon 2008 games Pit Flyers? --[[User:Butch Audacity|Butch Audacity]] Feb 14, 2010 3:52 PM EST

:They're a similar type, at least. I made a [[flyer]] page for them. They weren't [[Pit Flyer]]s, at least they didn't spawn from anything like those are concept-art shown to, but they were giant bats. -- [[User:Flux|Flux]] 08:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

==Mods section==
Leord suggested that I lend a hand fleshing it out. What kind of info do you want there? For what version of D2? Mods living / dead, released / unreleased, in development / complete / abandoned / history, etc.

Also, quite aside from the 'official documentation' that every mod has, Eastern Sun (for example) has a rather [http://miyoshino.la.coocan.jp/eswiki/ extensive wiki] of its own. How do these fit in? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 21:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:Hey, thanks for the offer.

:For now, I'd just like basic coverage of all the major (and minor?) D1 and D2 mods. I put some very quick paragraph summations about a few of them on the {{iw|Mod#Diablo_II_Mods d2 mods page}} a few weeks ago. I'd like to keep the descriptions on that page of about that length -- name of the mod, a sentence or two on what makes it special/different/unique, dates when it was being updated, links to official site/forum/download.

:Longer term, it would be nice to incorporate more of the mod info into the wiki. Maybe not every word of a mod's wiki, but at least to preserve the bulk of it; mod hosting sites come and go, after all. That content would go on a page devoted to that particular mod. We've got some more coverage of {{iw|Median_XL Median XL}} now, but it's kind of disorganized. Ultimately we'll get a proper mods navigation and boilerplate set up; so one of those nifty navigation tables would show the essential mod features and such.
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

::Flux, you commented on his userpage, rather than talk :p It's a little less likely to draw his attention, I think. --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 10:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Heh, doesn't matter. First place I look here is the recent changes (set to 30 days, 500 changes). Also, now I ''have'' a userpage ;p Anyway, onward. I'm not enormously familiar with most of the mods that are out there, but a couple of lines I should be able to do.

:::Longer term... Well, I'll just start on the shorter term first, shall I? --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 10:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==Brought to your attention...==
http://www.diablowiki.net/User:FreeGayChatroomWebcam
Somthing should probably be done about this...
--[[User:Belushi81x|belushi81x]] 16:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:yeah, it seemed a little lacking on diablo 3 content. Not even any links to the male wizard? ;)
:--[[User:Flux|Flux]] 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Flux

2010-03-01T21:10:09Z

Sing in Silence:

User talk:Sing in Silence

2010-03-01T20:16:47Z

Sing in Silence:

==Typos==
Nice work on those pesky little buggers. :) Also, welcome aboard the wiki for real. ;) Think we can see more of your help around here? --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks and thanks :) Well, I don't really have anything specific to contribute, (my Diablo knowledge is fairly limited to some D1, some lore (both of which covered better than I could manage,) and a lot of Median (which doesn't count),) so I'm doing fixes I find needful while browsing. ---[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 02:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

::What are you talking about?! More on Median as a mod would be WONDERFUL! =D I was hoping to get more about mods into the wiki. Perhaps you can help Flux fill out the [[Mod]] article as well... I mean, we're not looking to compete with the MEdian XL site or anything, but as much info as you feel like would be cool! --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 13:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Heh. Well, my problem isn't 'competing with the main site'; so much as not being entirely sure what more is needed (than what already exists on the site / forum). I don't know much about other D2 mods, but I can try. I'll drop him a note. --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 20:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Sing in Silence

2010-01-24T02:27:28Z

Sing in Silence: Rephrase.

User talk:Sing in Silence

2010-01-24T02:24:53Z

Sing in Silence:

Tyrael

2009-12-28T22:26:04Z

Sing in Silence: A couple of typos

'''Tyrael''' is an [[Archangel]] and a member of the powerful [[Angiris Council]]. He defied the council in order to teach the [[Horadrim]] how to seal the [[Prime Evils]]' souls into [[soulstone]]s, thereby trapping them for eternity.

Tyrael is the Archangel of Justice.

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|portrait= Tyrael_portrait.jpg


|chartype= normal
|title= [[Archangel]] of Justice
|gender= Male (presumed)
|race= Angel
|status= Alive (presumed)
|occupation= [[Angiris Council]] Member
|affiliation= [[High Heavens]], [[Horadrim]]
|friends= [[Deckard Cain]], [[Tal Rasha]]
|foes= [[Baal]], [[Mephisto]], [[Diablo]]
|location= Unknown
|categories= [[category:Possible NPCs]][[category:Angels]][[category:Angiris Council]]
}}
== Diablo III Character ==
Tyral has been seen a lot on concept art and on the official webpage for [[Diablo III]], and is very likely to end up as an [[NPC]] in the game in some form. There has been debates as to whether he will be good or evil, something we will have to wait and see.

===Diablo 3 Theories===
Many players believe that Tyrael will be central to the plot of Diablo 3. They claim that he will suffer the repercussions of destroying the Worldstone, and has perhaps even been cast out of heaven in the intermittent 20 years since his wings seem to be smoking[http://diablo3x.com/diablo-3-website-tyrael-is-turning-evil] he may be also be corrupted and an enemy in the next game [http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=669472]. Finally, in a Q&A session a Blizzard Representative said in answer to a question on The High Heavens and Tyrael:

<blockquote> "We are not going to reveal any details about that but I can say we do address a lot of the issues that you’re talking about. I can extrapolate that the high heavens aren’t very pleased about his actions. I probably shouldn’t say any more." [http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/diablo-3-open-qa-full-transcript1/] </blockquote>

The official website line is that Tyrael has been missing for the last 20 years, and nobody has heard anything about him.

[[Image:Tyreal_bare.jpg|left|thumb|600px|Tyrael, as seen on the official home page. Some fans claim that his wings seem to be just smoke, as if he is being banished from the [[High Heavens]].]]

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===Related Characters (and Monsters)===
* [[Deckard Cain]]
* The [[Player character]]s

==Personality==
The personality of Tyrael is known to only a very few. We know he is a man of great justice, compassion and hatred of [[demon]]s, and he has a special interest in [[Sanctuary]] as well as humanity.

Since he was close to destroying Sanctuary himself, originally, it's clear he's not afraid to take action against what he considers a threat to the [[High Heavens]].

==Background==

===Sanctuary===
When the [[Angiris Council]] first discovered [[Sanctuary]], Tyrael was designated to lead Heaven's forces in destroying the "abomination". This was [[Imperius]]' view, one Tyrael sympathised with, since the whole existence of sanctuary comes from a defiled union of [[angel]]s and [[demon]]s.

When Tyrael witnessed [[Uldyssian]] sacrificing himself for the world of sanctuary he had a change of heart, and took the deciding vote within the council to save Sanctuary from destruction.

The council wiped the memories of all humans, and none now know that Tyrael could have been the one responsible for the undoing of all of humanity.

===The Horadrim===
[[File:Horadrim_Sigil.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Sigil of the [[Horadrim]].]]
After the existence of [[Sanctuary]] was secured, Tyrael has been ordered by his fellow angels on many occasions not to interfere with the mortal world. He has often disobeyed, fearing that Sanctuary would otherwise fall in the hands of the [[Burning Hells]].

When the [[Prime Evils]] later were banished from hell during the [[Dark Exile]], Tyrael helped humanity to create the [[Horadrim]] and creating the Soulstones they used to imprison [[Diablo]], [[Mephisto]] and [[Baal]] with, centuries before the events covered in Diablo I and Diablo II.

He also helped the Horadrim to seal the essence of Mephisto in the body of [[Tal Rasha]].

===The Worldstone===
[[File:Tyrael.jpg|right|thumb|220px|Tyrael destroying the [[Worldstone]].]]
Tyrael was captured by Baal after he failed to stop Diablo from releasing Baal but was eventually freed by the adventurers of [[Diablo II]]. He returned to the adventurers in the [[Pandemonium Fortress]], the last bastion before [[Hell]], to offer some assistance.

When [[Diablo]] was defeated and the adventurers had caught up with [[Baal]] to slay him, Tyrael made it clear that Baal had permanently corrupted the [[Worldstone]]. He decided that the only thing he could do to protect [[Sanctuary]] was to destroy the sacred relic.

The destruction left the massive [[Mount Arreat]] as nothing more than a crater, and dealt a devastating blow to the [[Barbarian]] tribes, who saw it as their life duty to protect the Worldstone.

The Barbarian tribe leader [[Anya]] considers the destruction and tells us in her valediction that this action was never foreseen in the prophecies.

===Speculation: Tyrael's Agenda===
[[File:Angel concept1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|This [[Archangel]], who likely is Tyrael, is doing something powerful.]]
Tyrael has appeared to humans in many other times and locations to assist the humans in the fight against the demonic forces. Amongst players there is much speculation as to Tyrael's real agenda, but in the game all of the [[NPCs]] seem to hold him in the highest esteem.

However, the speculation includes notions such as Tyrael in fact caring nothing for humans, and the destruction of the [[Worldstone]] is for some devious purpose. Seen from a certain light, it seems strange he first supplied [[Soulstone]]s to the [[Horadrim]], only to ask the heroes to destroy them a few hundred years later. What implications will the destruction of the Worldstone have on [[Sanctuary]] and how do we know it really was corrupted beyond salvation? [[Baal]] had not spent THAT much time in the chamber, and was the stone really so easy to corrupt?

===Friends===
As with his personality, it's hard to know if Tyrael ever had any human friends, but if he did, [[Tal Rasha]] would likely be part of those, as would [[Deckard Cain]] and the heroes who helped defeat the Prime Evils.

===Foes===
More than anything, Tyrael opposes the [[Burning Hells]] and [[demon]]kind. If this is his only motivation for helping humans on [[Sanctuary]], or if he perhaps is using the human world as a battlefield against Hell is unknown.



==Previous Appearances==
[[File:Tyrael.gif|right|thumb|180px|Tyrael in [[Diablo II]].]]
Tyrael is seen in three places in [[Diablo II]]. The first is at the end of Act Two, when he greets the player from the island where Baal/Tal Rasha had been imprisoned. The second meeting comes in the [[Pandemonium Fortress]], the town of Act Four, where Tyrael interacts with characters like any other [[NPC]], though of course he's a bit less chatty.

He is not a merchant, but he can resurrect dead [[follower|mercs]], for the usual price. What Tyrael does with the [[gold]] is an eternal question and running joke for many players. The third sighting of Tyrael comes at the end of Act Five, when he descends from above after [[Baal]]'s defeat in the [[Worldstone Chamber]].

After a speech in which he asserts that Baal has poisoned the [[Worldstone]] and that it will no longer function to keep most of the forces of [[High Heavens|Heaven]] and [[Burning Hells|Hell]] from flooding into the mortal world, Tyrael creates a portal for the human heroes to leave.

After their departure, Tyrael hurls his sword into the Worldstone, causing it to shatter into countless millions of pieces, and its this explosion and apparent doom for humanity that fills the final cinematic of Diablo II.

For more information about the Diablo II NPC Tyrael, see: '''{{iw|Tyrael Tyrael}}'''

===Tyrael Dialogues===
These dialogues are the transcribed content of everything Tyrael has said in any [[Diablo game]]. So far of course only [[Diablo II]]...
* '''[[Tyrael dialogue]]s'''



==Trivia==
[[File:Tyrael_pet.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The Tyrael pet.]]
Tyrael makes a cameo in [[World of WarCraft]] as an in-game pet. This was part of the goody-bag from [[WWI 2008]] in Paris, where Diablo was unveiled.

==Media==
You can find pictures in the Diablo 3 screenshot and picture gallery:
* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/ Diablo 3 screenshots and pictures]
* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=all&si=Tyrael Tyrael-specific gallery contents]

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Tyrael in action, trying to stop the [[Dark Wanderer]] from freeing [[Baal]]. Unfortunately, [[Marius]] gets in the way and frees him.

<gallery>
File:Tyrael.jpg|Destroying the [[Worldstone]].
File:Tyrael_armor.jpg|Tyrael's Armour.
File:Tyrael.gif|D2's Tyrael.
File:Tyrael_portrait.jpg|Tyrael up close.
File:Angel concept1.jpg|Tyrael or possibly [[Izual]] doing some soul-searching.
File:Tyrael_pet.jpg|The [[World of WarCraft|WoW pet]].
File:Wanderer.jpg|Fighting the [[Dark Wanderer]].
</gallery>



==References==
* [[Diablo II: Lord of Destruction Manual]]
* [[Diablo II Manual]]
* [[Diablo I Manual]]
* [http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/diablo-3-open-qa-full-transcript1/ Diablo 3 Open Q&A Full Transcript]
* {{iw|Tyrael Diablo II Tyrael}}
* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=718&size=big&cat=563 Tyrael's Armor]
* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=724&size=big&cat=563 Tyrael or other Archangel being powerful]

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Talk:Inarious

2009-04-02T19:32:49Z

Sing in Silence:

Typo?
Unless it's a different character, the angel's name is [[Inarius]]. --[[User:Sing in Silence|Sing in Silence]] 21:32, 2 April 2009 (CEST)