Class-Specific Weapons - Revision history

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Risingred at 02:37, 29 July 2012

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‎Who Can't Use What?

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Brokenstorm at 16:32, 25 September 2011

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‎Explanations

Dragonfriend: Daggers listed twice

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 * Wizards can’t use [[Polearms]], or 2H maces.
 ** Wiz class-specific: [[Orbs]] and wands.
-* Witch Doctors can't use [[Polearms]], wands, or 2H maces.
+* Witch Doctors can't use [[Polearms]], or 2H maces.
 ** WD class-specific: [[Ceremonial Knives]], [[Mojos]]
-** Only Wizards and WDs can use wands and daggers.
+** Only Wizards and WDs can use daggers.

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 * Demon Hunters can't use: 2h weapons of any type (including [[Polearms]], or wands.
 ** DH class-specific: [[Hand Crossbows]], and off-hand [[quivers]].
-* Monks can't use two-handed [[maces]], 2H [[axes]], 2H [[swords]], wands, or ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
+* Monks can't use ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
 ** Monk class-specific: [[Fist]]s, and also [[Daibos]].
 ** Monks can dual wield all available one-handed weapons.
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 ==Who Can't Use What?==
-This list is incomplete and subject to change as the game's development continues and more information is released. It was compiled from various developer comments and from what fans have observed in the playable demos, in addition to playtime in the [[Diablo III Beta Test]]. See the [[weapons]] page for a full list of weapon types in Diablo III. This list assumes the obvious that each class cannot wield another class's specific weapon types.
+This list is incomplete and subject to change as the game's development continues and more information is released. It was compiled from various developer comments and from what fans have observed in the playable demos, in addition to playtime in the [[beta]]. See the [[weapons]] page for a full list of weapon types in Diablo III. This list assumes the obvious that each class cannot wield another class's specific weapon types.
 * Barbs can't use [[wands]], [[caster staves]], or ranged weapons: [[bows]] and [[crossbows]].
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 No official explanations have been offered for these changes, but presumably it's all based on play testing and fun factor, and the Monk must have been boring or no fun with just a few weapons to choose from.
 ==Explanations==

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 ==Who Can't Use What?==
-This list is incomplete and subject to change as the game's development continues and more information is released. It was compiled from various developer comments and from what fans have observed in the playable demos. See the [[weapons]] page for a full list of weapon types in Diablo III.
+This list is incomplete and subject to change as the game's development continues and more information is released. It was compiled from various developer comments and from what fans have observed in the playable demos, in addition to playtime in the [[Diablo III Beta Test]]. See the [[weapons]] page for a full list of weapon types in Diablo III. This list assumes the obvious that each class cannot wield another class's specific weapon types.
-* Barbs can't use [[daggers]], [[wands]], [[caster staves]], [[combat staves]], or ranged weapons: [[bows]] and [[crossbows]].
+* Barbs can't use [[wands]], [[caster staves]], or ranged weapons: [[bows]] and [[crossbows]].
-** Barb class-specific: Unknown. Perhaps some of the largest types of axes or polearms, or other melee weapons?
+** Barb class-specific: [[Mighty Weapons]].
-** Barbs can [[dual-wield]] all one-handed weapons, barring a few class-specifics.
+** Barbs can [[dual-wield]] all available one-handed weapons.
-* Demon Hunters can't use: Unknown. Likely no wands or daggers. Heavy 2H weapons, perhaps?
+* Demon Hunters can't use: 2h weapons of any type (including [[Polearms]], or wands.
 ** DH class-specific: [[Hand Crossbows]], and off-hand [[quivers]].
-* Monks can't use two-handed [[maces]], 2H [[axes]], wands, or ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
+* Monks can't use two-handed [[maces]], 2H [[axes]], 2H [[swords]], wands, or ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
-** Monk class-specific: [[Fist]]s, possibly [[combat staves]].
+** Monk class-specific: [[Fist]]s, and also [[Daibos]].
-** Monks can dual wield all one-handed weapons, barring a few class-specifics.
+** Monks can dual wield all available one-handed weapons.
-* Wizards can’t use 2H swords, 2H axes.
+* Wizards can’t use [[Polearms]], or 2H maces.
-** Wiz class-specific: [[Orbs]]. Only Wizards and WDs can use wands and daggers.
+** Wiz class-specific: [[Orbs]] and wands.
-* Witch Doctors can't use 1H axes, or combat staves.
+* Witch Doctors can't use [[Polearms]], wands, or 2H maces.
-** WD class-specific: The Witch Doctor appears to be holding some sort of [[totem]]-like object in his off-hand in the [[Acid Cloud]] [[runestone]] skill video from May 2011.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/new-runestones-details-and-videos/ Runestone demonstration video] - IncGamers, May 2011</ref>
+** WD class-specific: [[Ceremonial Knives]], [[Mojos]]
 ** Only Wizards and WDs can use wands and daggers.
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 ** Barbs can [[dual-wield]] all one-handed weapons, barring a few class-specifics.
 * Demon Hunters can't use: Unknown. Likely no wands or daggers. Heavy 2H weapons, perhaps?
-** DH class-specific: [[Pistol crossbow]]s, and off-hand [[quivers]].
+** DH class-specific: [[Hand Crossbows]], and off-hand [[quivers]].
 * Monks can't use two-handed [[maces]], 2H [[axes]], wands, or ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
 ** Monk class-specific: [[Fist]]s, possibly [[combat staves]].

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 Numerous types of [[weapons]] (but not [[armor]]) are restricted to certain classes in Diablo III. The developers have given two main reasons for this limitation: they want weapons to be appropriate for the classes that can use them, and it would be a huge amount of more work to make animations for every item on every character, and as seldom as some classes would use some item types, the development time is better spent working on other aspects of the game.
-The limitations on class weapons have changed repeatedly during the game's development, and will likely continue to evolve right up until release. As recently as November 2010 the Monk was granted the ability to dual wield virtually all one-handed weapons.
+The limitations on class weapons have changed repeatedly during the game's development, and will likely continue to evolve right up until release. (With new weapon types and other changes appearing in the [[expansions]].)
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 * Barbs can't use [[daggers]], [[wands]], [[caster staves]], [[combat staves]], or ranged weapons: [[bows]] and [[crossbows]].
-** Barb class-specific: Unknown. Perhaps some of the largest types of axes or other melee weapons?
+** Barb class-specific: Unknown. Perhaps some of the largest types of axes or polearms, or other melee weapons?
 ** Barbs can [[dual-wield]] all one-handed weapons, barring a few class-specifics.
 * Demon Hunters can't use: Unknown. Likely no wands or daggers. Heavy 2H weapons, perhaps?
-** DH class-specific: [[Pistol crossbow]]s.
+** DH class-specific: [[Pistol crossbow]]s, and off-hand [[quivers]].
 * Monks can't use two-handed [[maces]], 2H [[axes]], wands, or ranged weapons: bows and crossbows. (The class was limited to far fewer weapons earlier in development. See below.)
 ** Monk class-specific: [[Fist]]s, possibly [[combat staves]].
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 * Wizards can’t use 2H swords, 2H axes.
 ** Wiz class-specific: [[Orbs]]. Only Wizards and WDs can use wands and daggers.
-* Witch Doctors can’t use 1H axes, or combat staves.
+* Witch Doctors can't use 1H axes, or combat staves.
-** WD class-specific: Only Wizards and WDs can use wands and daggers.
+** WD class-specific: The Witch Doctor appears to be holding some sort of [[totem]]-like object in his off-hand in the [[Acid Cloud]] [[runestone]] skill video from May 2011.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/new-runestones-details-and-videos/ Runestone demonstration video] - IncGamers, May 2011</ref>
 Only Wizards can use [[orbs]]. Only Monks can use [[fists]] (and combat staves?) Barbs and Monks can dual wield 1H melee weapons, but can not use ranged weapons.
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 ===Armor Limitations?===
-Armor is not limited the way weapons are. All characters can use different types of armor.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/bashiok-on-class-specific-items-part-two/ Bashiok forum post] - IncGamers August, 2010</ref>
+Armor is not limited the way weapons are. All characters can equip all of the different types of armor.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/bashiok-on-class-specific-items-part-two/ Bashiok forum post] - IncGamers August, 2010</ref>
 Each type of armor will look different and appropriate on each class, as well.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/wds-wont-just-wear-leaves-after-all/ Bashiok forum post] - IncGamers February, 2010</ref>
 ::The Witchdoctor’s thematic palette is proving to be very broad. He can wear a lot of cool armor and still look like a Witchdoctor.
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 ==Fan Reactions==
-Fans aren't real supportive of the class specific weapon restrictions in Diablo III. Diii.net ran a vote in October 2010, which found that 52% of fans did not like all of the restrictions.[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/vote-diablo-iiis-class-restricted-weapons/]
+Fans aren't real supportive of the class specific weapon restrictions in Diablo III. Diii.net ran a vote in October 2010, which found that 52% of fans did not like all of the restrictions.<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/vote-diablo-iiis-class-restricted-weapons/ Diii.net community vote] - Diablo.IncGamers.com, July 2009</ref>
 This fan opposition isn't likely to sway Blizzard one way or the other, and it probably shouldn't since the fan reactions are entirely hypothetical, based on limited info rather than any actual first hand experience with how weapon restrictions actually impact the play experience.
 ==References==

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	<blue>Bashiok: It’s important to note that we aren’t going to just slap on animations. We’ll do it right or we won’t do it. There is some overlap in weapon animations, but generally every weapon needs a full range of adaptation to the character. We can’t animate a 1h sword and then equip a 1h axe and be happy with it being wielded in the same manner. In addition we don’t want weapons disappearing whenever the hero does anything but a basic attack, so they have to be animated into emotes, idles, and a lot of skills and abilities. Every weapon. Some people noticed weapons disappear during some of the monk abilities. We don’t like that. Most of that was due to time constraints to get that demo finished. Again there is some overlap - staves share a lot of the same animation with the other 2h weapons, but to dismiss it as “just animate it and slap it on and it works!” is seriously oversimplifying our processes. Maybe some other games do it that way.</blue>		<blue>Bashiok: It’s important to note that we aren’t going to just slap on animations. We’ll do it right or we won’t do it. There is some overlap in weapon animations, but generally every weapon needs a full range of adaptation to the character. We can’t animate a 1h sword and then equip a 1h axe and be happy with it being wielded in the same manner. In addition we don’t want weapons disappearing whenever the hero does anything but a basic attack, so they have to be animated into emotes, idles, and a lot of skills and abilities. Every weapon. Some people noticed weapons disappear during some of the monk abilities. We don’t like that. Most of that was due to time constraints to get that demo finished. Again there is some overlap - staves share a lot of the same animation with the other 2h weapons, but to dismiss it as “just animate it and slap it on and it works!” is seriously oversimplifying our processes. Maybe some other games do it that way.</blue>

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		+	==Fan Reactions==
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		+	Fans aren't real supportive of the class specific weapon restrictions in Diablo III. Diii.net ran a vote in October 2010, which found that 52% of fans did not like all of the restrictions.[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/vote-diablo-iiis-class-restricted-weapons/]
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		+	This fan opposition isn't likely to sway Blizzard one way or the other, and it probably shouldn't since the fan reactions are entirely hypothetical, based on limited info rather than any actual first hand experience with how weapon restrictions actually impact the play experience.

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