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Leord at 12:25, 2 October 2009

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Vipermagi: /* Examples */ closer approximation :

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‎Examples: closer approximation :

Leord: /* How to use a Talk Page? */

2008-10-24T08:43:50Z

‎How to use a Talk Page?

Leord: /* Further Help */

2008-08-28T12:30:32Z

‎Further Help

Leord: /* Further Help */

2008-08-27T14:53:21Z

‎Further Help

Leord at 10:59, 27 August 2008

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Leord at 10:58, 27 August 2008

2008-08-27T10:58:53Z

Leord at 10:40, 27 August 2008

2008-08-27T10:40:19Z

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In any wiki, it's important to communicate between the contributors, and for this reason, we have '''talk''' pages.

==What's a Talk Page?==
A wiki contains a lot of talk pages, and these are the central place for discussion on the cooperative project we call DiabloWiki. Every page has a talk page, and they are there to discuss that particular article. They work like a posting board, just like on the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ Unofficial Forums]}}, but with the difference that every contributor can edit everything, and everyone can see all changes. There are three types of talk pages:

* '''Article talk pages''' - Just like the talk page for this help page ([[Help talk:Talk]]), they are made to discuss the content and planning on the article they belong to. Everything from minor suggestions from new contributors to advanced pre-planning of entire projects relating to given subject can be discussed. When you "[[Help:Move|move]]" an article, the talk page will follow suit.
* '''User talk pages''' - These pages have another purpose than the article talk pages in that they are just small guest books for each member in the DiabloWiki. The pages are used for general chit-chat or discussing projects. These are as formal or informal as the owner of the talk page prefers.
* '''[[Talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk page]]''' - The main "board" for over-arching discussions in DiabloWiki. Larger issues go here, similar to some of the ones in the user talk pages. New, old or re-planning. This is the hub for the wiki.

==How to use a Talk Page?==
Talk pages are not complicated at all. It's just a matter of editing, write a message, sign and save. Besides being made in a wiki-format, it's very much like a forum. There are a couple of things to bear in mind though:

* '''Always sign your comments!''' Just add a <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of anything you write on a talk page, or click the "Your signature with a time stamp" tool in the formatting toolbar at the top of the edit page. Mind you, don't sign things you write in normal articles!
* '''New topics on top, replies to topics on bottom.''' New topics are placed at the top of the talk page, and you reply to others' comments by adding your reply underneath them.
** New topics deserve a headline. Add "<nowiki>==Headline==</nowiki>" over your topic.
** If you are discussing something with diverse sub-topics, you can make sub-headings. These sub headings go on the end of the current discussion (but above older ones further down). Add "<nowiki>===Sub-Headline===</nowiki>" over your topic.
* Replies should be "indented" to show which comment you are replying to. Use "<nowiki>:</nowiki>" as the first sign on a row to indent a small level. Use "<nowiki>::</nowiki>" to indent more, etc etc. This will create a logical "tree" of replies, and you should keep to that.
** Reply under the previous comment that you want to gibe your opinion about.
** If you want to reply to an earlier made comment, make the comment under all other comments, but with only one indent more than than the post replied to.

== Examples ==
This is how a talk page can look:

This would be the text you'd see in the edit window:

== Health Orbs ==
Text about health orbs, either how to format it, or what focus to have on the actual article would go here. As an initial post it could be a suggestion or even just a question. Generally refrain from asking support questions. Use the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ unofficial forum]}} for that.
--[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:40, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
: In this case the first reply is just a short comment.
:: The second reply is also a short comment, and contains quite few words as well.
::: The discussion continues and the Health Orb organisation is starting to take form.
: The fourth reply is not relating to the others, but directly to the original comment.
: The fifth reply is also a short one, for the first post.
:: The sixth one is a reply to the fifth one.

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 <span style="font-size:150%; color:white;">Health Orbs</span>
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-Text about [[health orbs]], either how to format it, or what focus to have on the actual article would go here. As an initial post it could be a suggestion or even just a question. Generally refrain from asking support questions. Use the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ unofficial forum]}} for that. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:40, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
+Text about [[health orb]]s, either how to format it, or what focus to have on the actual article would go here. As an initial post it could be a suggestion or even just a question. Generally refrain from asking support questions. Use the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ unofficial forum]}} for that. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:40, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
 : In this case the first reply is just a short comment. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 13:35, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
 :: The second reply is also a short comment, and contains quite few words as well. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:10, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
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 This would be the text you'd see in the edit window:
-  == Health Orbs ==
+  == Health Orbs ==<nowiki>
-  Text about health orbs, either how to format it, or what focus to have on the actual
+  Text about [[health orb]]s, either how to format it, or what focus to have on the actual
   article would go here.  As an initial post it could be a suggestion or even just a
   question. Generally refrain from asking support questions.  Use the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ unofficial forum]}}
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   : The fifth reply is also a short one, for the first post. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 21:23, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
   :: The sixth one is a reply to the fifth one. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 21:43, 27 August 2008 (CEST)
+</nowiki>
 ==Further Help==

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 ==Further Help==
-If you need any further help, make a note on the talk page of this article!
+If you need any further help, make a note on the [[Help talk:Talk|talk page]] of this article!
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 * '''Article talk pages''' - Just like the talk page for this help page ([[Help talk:Talk]]), they are made to discuss the content and planning on the article they belong to. Everything from minor suggestions from new contributors to advanced pre-planning of entire projects relating to given subject can be discussed. When you "[[Help:Move|move]]" an article, the talk page will follow suit.
 * '''User talk pages''' - These pages have another purpose than the article talk pages in that they are just small guest books for each member in the DiabloWiki. The pages are used for general chit-chat or discussing projects. These are as formal or informal as the owner of the talk page prefers.
-* '''[[Talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk page]]''' - The main "board" for over-arching discussions in DiabloWiki. Larger issues go here, similar to some of the ones in the user talk pages. New, old or re-planning. This is the hub for the wiki.
+* '''[[{{WikiTitle}}_talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk page]]''' - The main "board" for over-arching discussions in DiabloWiki. Larger issues go here, similar to some of the ones in the user talk pages. New, old or re-planning. This is the hub for the wiki.

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 * '''Always sign your comments!''' Just add a <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of anything you write on a talk page, or click the "Your signature with a time stamp" tool in the formatting toolbar at the top of the edit page. Mind you, don't sign things you write in normal articles!
 ** Some people sign on a lower row, some on the same. Either way is fine. Just sign.
-* '''New topics on top, replies to topics on bottom.''' New topics are placed at the top of the talk page, and you reply to others' comments by adding your reply underneath them.
+* '''New topics on bottom, replies to topics on bottom of topic.''' New topics are placed at the bottom of the talk page, and you reply to others' comments by adding your reply underneath them.
 ** New topics deserve a headline. Add "<nowiki>==Headline==</nowiki>" over your topic.
 ** If you are discussing something with diverse sub-topics, you can make sub-headings. These sub headings go on the end of the current discussion (but above older ones further down). Add "<nowiki>===Sub-Headline===</nowiki>" over your topic.
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 ** Reply under the previous comment that you want to gibe your opinion about.
 ** If you want to reply to an earlier made comment, make the comment under all other comments, but with only one indent more than than the post replied to.
-* Generally refrain from asking "support" questions in terms of technical troubles as well as gameplay. Use the {{wl|[http://forums.diii.net/ unofficial forum]}} for that.
+* Keep a conversation on a specific topic on '''ONE''' talk page, so it's easier to follow.
+** You can also invite your friends to continue the discussion somewhere else, like on the page you are discussing about (example: talk about how to organize headlines on the [[Wizard]], is logical to have on the Wizard talk page rather than a user talk page.
 == Examples ==